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Kevin Carylon Interview – Haunted Cornwall 22nd August

Hurray, Kevin appeared!

 So Kevin Carlyon rang the show last week and I was able to pose some of the questions hinted at in my earlier blog post.

I guess  the first issue was, for me, about trying to work out ‘where he was coming from’.

Some of the key issues were his apparent titles – “High Priest of British White Witchcraft” and the way he was presenting modern witchcraft to the world. The very title ‘White Witch’ is, for many, an immediate indication of pandering to a particular set of Judaeo-Christian constructs.

A history of ‘modern witchcraft’ is perhaps the topic for another post, suffice it to say here that there are broadly four flavours of witchery in the UK.

Firstly we have those who adhere to the ‘systems’ created by Gerald Gardener and Alex Sanders…

Secondly there are those who make a claim to a more ancient lineage of ‘real witchcraft’ – they were trained by a a ‘wise’ person who in turn was trained by an ‘older’ wise person who in turn – well you get the drift.

Thirdly there are those who claim they were born a witch!

Finally there are those who we could call ‘modern-self-initiated’ witches who have created their own patchwork of beliefs drawn from several sources.

Kevin is, according to his website and what I could glean from the interview, both a ‘born’ and ‘self-initiated’ witch who has now set up his own system called The Covenant of Earth Magic.

So here we have the first answer to one of my questions…

Of course Kevin is High Priest of Witches initiated into his system – he’s the head of that ‘covenant’ after all, and he does present a strong case for the fact that this title has been quoted out of context by the various media pundits who have spoken to him.

In many ways it is easy to see how this could happen – newspapers and TV want simple ‘sound bytes’ and the catchy title “High Priest of White Witches” does have that snappy feel.

Kevin certainly courts media attention, and hence he is very aware of how to get the attention of a particular audience. He makes it very clear in the interview that he will ‘pitch’ his presentation to the audience – and I guess that means sometimes to the lowest common denominator.

His core message seems to be genuine and heartfelt – it is one which seeks to challenge some of the negative stereotypes about witches, witchcraft and associated pagan beliefs.

I can’t help thinking, however, that some of his actions and media appearances actually serve to reinforce some of the ideas he seeks to challenge and, in a few cases, creates a parody of himself and the cause for which he stands.

I have no doubt in my mind that Kevin does follow an Earth Magic Path but I do worry about the apparent over simplification of the image he tends to present to those inside and outside of ‘the craft’. It is clear that he has a well developed sense of humour and I would guess enjoys leading some of the less wary along a serpentine path causing them to jump to conclusions about his ‘outrageous’ claims – claims which he may never have made but which he has let go unchallenged. The ‘joke’ photograph of him being ‘edited into’ a scene from the Wicker Man being a particular example….

There is a sincerity that creeps through the rhetoric and I think I would enjoy some more detailed conversations about his magical beliefs and adaptations of shamanic practices. In the interview on Haunted Cornwall FM I felt that there was a degree of wooliness in this regard but also expect that was due in a large part to the nature of the interview and the way the focus of questions was split between John Forster (Haunted Cornwall FM founder), the listeners on the chat rooms and myself. This tending towards the superficial is always going to be an issue in show with the format Haunted Cornwall FM currently has – however perhaps the shows popularity is that it does move quickly over so many topics.

As a Rational Mystic I would like to probe more deeply into his claims for the ‘power’ of his spells, the specific nature of this “electroparanormal power” he speaks of (which to me is very woo woo) and the way he can validate the claims he makes for magic. Now don’t get me wrong here, I am not challenging a belief system but a specific set of claims made by Kevin on his websites (www.kevwitch.co.uk and www.kevincarlyon.co.uk). Of course the Mystic in me is extremely interested in the specifics of his magical cosmology, occult background and contextual elements of the Covenant of Earth Magic – is it a ‘brand’ or does it have internal metaphysical consistency?

Kevin is the ‘trickster’ and a well practiced, media savvy, self-publicist. Hell, nothing wrong with that – we all need to be able to promote what we do and aspects of ourselves at one time or another. Is he the ‘real’ wizard, sorceror, oracle and sage well only time will tell – and by that I mean by having the opportunity to talk to the man behind the media image. Many think that he is and are looking to him for ‘instruction’ … that I think creates a whole new set of questions.

Alan

King of White Witches or What?

So tonight on Haunted Cornwall FM (www.hauntedcornwallFM.com) we hope to speak to Kevin Carlyon – the High Priest of British White Witches.
                                        
For once I’m not sure where to start with this one.
I’m not really sure how to ‘take’ this guy.
I met him several years ago. We are of a similar vintage and have walked some very similar paths. He will not remember me because then, like now, I’m not one of the ‘important people to know’ and I think for Kevin even in those early days that was important.
I followed, at a distance, his early break with the formalised systems of Alexandrian and Gardnerian Wicca, and was interested in what he started to call the Covenant of Earth Magic. Perhaps it was upon the death of Alex Sanders (the last self-professed King of Witches) that Kevin saw the gap and ‘went for it’.
Let’s stop hare and think for a moment. The title High Priest of (all) British Witches and, for that matter, King of the Witches, is about as meaningful as saying that I am :Lord Archbishop of the TeaPot People….  It has no real meaning outside of my personal reality. Yes, I’m saying that Kevins title has no real meaning outside of his own reality.
Formalised Wicca in this country has a rather particular hierarchy which is generally restricted to particular ‘covens’ of groups of ‘covens’ that owe their lineage to a particular system or training group. Like all religions there are various ‘flavours’ and ‘ideological differences’ – thankfully not as embedded as within the Christian Church BUT in places and between some groups there is disharmony. Hence to claim to be the HEAD or KING of HIGH PRIEST of ALL BRITISH WITCHES is not an honest one, and the pagan movement continues to challenge Kevins right to claim that he speaks for all Witches.
See the petition against him here: http://www.petitiononline.com/kev0/petition.html
Kevin does make some interesting claims to title…
“I had pleasure in meeting many of my Scottish Witches (I stress here not those who adhere to the Wiccan path) and supporters, including business people, from whom I accepted the gracious title of THE OFFICIAL PROTECTOR AND HIGH PRIEST OF LOCH NESS which is a life time honour and it may last longer than that if I decide to have my ashes scattered on the Loch after my death.”
Well by that thinking I’m claiming now my title of Arch Druid of Cornwall and Druid Protector of Falmouth (and therefore our own Nessie – Mawgwr) as bestowed upon me by High Priest and Druid Eddie Pryn (yes of the Stone Circles in my garden fame) and Tony Doc Shiels (yes of Owlman, Cornish Witch and Bizarre Magick fame).
Not to mention my High Priest status and Reverend Status from the Church of the Seven Planes….
It is this aspect of Kevins claims that seem to alienate the vast majority of pagan folk I talk too.
However is he really serious?
I mean this photo of him with is coven for example
Yes, it does look like Kevin photoshopped into a scene from the original Wicker Man (and I believe the coven in question in that film was Alex Sanders’)
In response to his critics Kevin has said..
Hi 
I love it when so called White Witches alow me to use their negativity to gain power. It would seem that most who oppose me do so out of fear and as I have a sense of humour nothing I like better is a good windup which others seem not to be able to handle
Wind Up or Witch Witch (yes know there are issues there too)

Well tonight I hope we will find out…
Haunted Cornwall FM 8pm – 10pm GMT + 1

Alan